Jimmy Carter: Patience and Diplomacy Could Have Ended Slavery and Prevented Civil War

BY: NCViking
You got to love Jimmy Carter. After meeting with the terrorist group Hamas last year and outraging nearly everyone, it became clear that he honestly believes just ‘talking’ can stop bloodthirsty nuts and evil acts. If you question whether this is a fair assessment of Hamas, I will let their own words speak for themselves:
From The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas – 1988)
Article 13
(Strategies and Methods – (regarding) Peaceful Solutions, Initiatives and International Conferences)“Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement … There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors. The Palestinian people know better than to consent to having their future, rights and fate toyed with.”
Article 15
(Strategies and Methods – The Jihad for the Liberation of Palestine is an Individual Duty:)“In face of the Jews’ usurpation of Palestine, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised. To do this requires the diffusion of Islamic consciousness among the masses, both on the regional, Arab and Islamic levels. It is necessary to instill the spirit of Jihad in the heart of the nation so that they would confront the enemies and join the ranks of the fighters.”
“It is necessary that scientists, educators and teachers, information and media people, as well as the educated masses, especially the youth and sheikhs of the Islamic movements, should take part in the operation of awakening (the masses). It is important that basic changes be made in the school curriculum, to cleanse it of the traces of ideological invasion that affected it as a result of the orientalists and missionaries who infiltrated the region following the defeat of the Crusaders at the hands of Salah el-Din (Saladin).”
Sounds like people you can negotiate with, huh? To see even further looniness, check out this blog post.
Now our little modern day Neville Chamberlain has decided to criticize Abraham Lincoln for being ‘un-Christian’ for the Civil War.
From NY Daily News:
(I am publishing about 3/4 of the article; if you want to read the whole thing, follow the link)
Here’s the latest outrage from Jimmy Carter, the ex-President so many Americans love to hate: He claims the Civil War – which he calls, Southern-style, “The War Between the States” – was un-Christian and could have been avoided.
The comments come in a new book, “In Lincoln’s Hand: His Original Manuscripts With Commentary By Distinguished Americans.” Carter comments on a passage by Lincoln in which Lincoln writes: “I am almost ready to say this is probably true – that God wills this contest, and wills that it shall not end yet.”
Carter writes that he finds the Lincoln writing “very troubling.” Continues Carter: “He ignores the fact that the tragic combat might have been avoided altogether, and that the leaders of both sides, overwhelmingly Christian, were violating a basic premise of their belief as followers of the Prince of Peace.” He concludes: “A legitimate question for historians is how soon the blight of slavery would have been terminated peacefully in America, as in Great Britain and other civilized societies.”
Carter holds up the British – who didn’t fight a war over slavery – as an example, but a careful look shows that case to be thoroughly unconvincing. Parliament had acted in 1807 to ban the slave trade and in 1833 to abolish slavery altogether. By the time the Civil War began in 1861, America’s legislature had yet to follow suit – and the Southerners didn’t appear in any great rush to do so.
How much patience should Lincoln have had with the immoral institution? How many more lashes should have fallen on the backs of American blacks during Carter’s hypothetical waiting period for slavery to terminate “peacefully”? The period wouldn’t have been particularly peaceful for the slaves. One might as well argue that the bloodshed of the American Revolution could have been avoided, given that British rule was eventually terminated peacefully in Canada.
Given the Civil War comment, we can no longer see each (Carter) misstep or misstatement in isolation as just another crazy comment from an old man who wasn’t that good a President anyway. Carter seems to go to irrational extremes to avoid forthright confrontation or conflict with evil of any kind – even when ending human slavery is at stake.
The Obama administration is going to be faced with policy decisions on negotiating with Hamas, Iran, North Korea and others whose hands are stained with crimes akin to slavery. It may help President Obama structure the internal discussions if he considers whether he wants to perceive America’s conflicts in the fashion of Lincoln, his fellow Illinois politician, or in the manner of Carter, waiting around for a peaceful termination while today’s victims and slaves suffer beatings and are deprived of their freedoms.
I just hope and pray Obama doesn’t adopt the Carter doctrine, but if his goofy, poor attempts at foreign relations and striking similarities to Gordon Brown are any indication, start worrying.
“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
George Santayana, The Life of Reason
Chamberlain also said he had a long, friendly and frank ‘talk’ with Heir Hitler; and from this he supposedly gained full understanding of what was in the madman’s mind. The rest is history.

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I am not sure that Jimmy Carter is right, but he was our most religious president. He really took his beliefs into action.
Negotiation is not the same as capitulation or appeasement. There are a couple of points worth noting for history’s perspectives:
- all wars are eventually ended through negotiations
- when a small band of lunatics take over a nation state, it is possible to defeated their ideas and the structures that support their power
- when a group of people believe they are denied freedom as a result of structures that support their enemies, they cannot be defeated, only suppressed
Obviously if you completely vanquish your enemy they cannot rise again, but few wars end in complete vanquish. Germany and Japan did in WW2 because they were runaway ideologies that fit point 2 above.
Vietnam is more like #3, so is Hamas.
Your post relates to the Palestinian/Israeli conflict, which fits into the last category. There was a great deal of progress with the Palestinian Authority (which once was the Hamas of its day).
It is impossible to defeat Hamas in the battle field. Hamas may be corrupt, but it is hospitals, health care, welfare, and justice. It serves a segment of society that has been thrown away by the West.
Israel could not control it during occupation and cannot control it during the invasion. It goes underground. It’s money feeds a lot of families, provides a lot of education, and jobs, even when those jobs are terrorism.
The way to fight Hamas is to provide jobs, education, health care, and freedom to Palestinians. You can not avenge the deaths of yesterday. You can only save the lives of tomorrow.
Interesting points.
The Hamas Charter advocates the expulsion of Israel and indoctrinating society for this cause. It is a runaway ideology (as you describe it), as is al Qaeda. No matter how much JC negotiates, it falls on deaf ears. At least Chamberlain was duped, JC knew who he was talking to. He seems to be the antithesis of a warmonger and neither extreme is appropriate. The most effective approach is somewhere in between. Knowing who can be reasonable, and who isn’t and when waiting endlessly for a change is unethical and dangerous, like in the case of The Civil War or World War II.
Regarding your points on jobs and education helping peace, if you have time, read The Pentagon’s New Map. The writing is bad and repetitive, but the idea is very interesting. Scroll down to check out the review summaries for a taste.
Viking, you may want to add that Thomas PM Barnett, the author of the Pentagon’s New Map (and his new book Great Powers) is a Democrat who served in both Democrat and Republican administrations. Also worth listening to are the 1 hour long podcasts Barnett has been having with Hugh Hewitt, 1 hour for each chapter of Great Powers (he did the same with PNM). Barnett s what I would call a centrist.
Adding… Carter is what I would call the worst ex-president of all time.
Ok, why would you say he is the worst? Add some details
Mike… Jimmy Carter was the worst “ex-president” of the US, for reasons that are obvious to me and anecdotal, not spreadsheet. Unlike any of his predecessors or successors. There is an unwritten rule, outside of campaigns, that ex-Presidents do not insult or undermind the current occupant. Truman, Ike, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush 41, Clinton, and Bush 43 have abided by this. They are all good ex-presidents in that manner.
JC runs around criticizing the current occupant, involving himself in activities that are against US policy. This was most noticable during the Bush Presidency, but he continues to be an embarassment to Obama.
Was John Tyler or some former President from the 19th century worse? Maybe… but I have not considered them.
Let me clarify my original statement. JC behaves as the worst “ex-president” from modern times.
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